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Title: Tech demo
Post by: Mango on 2008-10-27 10:15 (Mon)
Looks very good. Like what you have done, when you enter the first town.

As far as I tested, it all it seems working properly.

I would just cut down a bit on the trees on the first place. It's just a little bit annoying for a new player to chase the little rodents with all the trees.

What can I comment more about.. def xp seems endless without fleeing  :P.

Oh and my #ping is around 900. But I heard that also will be solved over time.

As far as I know, there is no way of testing out the armor and weapons, since I didn't find a way to make gold coins yet. ;)

I'm off to bed now, keep the project going guys.


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Liq on 2008-10-28 05:07 (Tue)
I tested it too.

All seems fine, apart from the ping side of things, is a little laggy.. And the tree's too.. Is soemthing that makes EL a pain, lets have less tree's :D

Looks good though, can't wait to test more.

Also, keep the P2P's free forever. ;)


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Korrode on 2008-10-28 08:30 (Tue)
Great to have ppls testing :)

Just some info:

Due to some recent changes to the way certain types of exp is gained, i've had to re-setup creature stats. Right now i've only done up to foxes, and all stats are still very preliminary.

The way creatures spawn and their current locations wont be the same by beta stage, atm the town map has heaps of creatures on it, this is an example of something that doesn't make too much sense from a roleplay perspective and will change.
Which maps connect to where and what map you start on will all probably change.

Thanks to those that are testing and i hope you're having fun :)


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Jizzy on 2008-10-28 11:34 (Tue)
hey.. i logged on to test.. was fighting stuff and noticed a WS map flag.. went to it to use it.. then it shut down on me.. and i cannot log back in.. am i missing a .elm file or something.. i d/l the 3 i saw in another post.


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: krayon on 2008-10-28 15:51 (Tue)
hey.. i logged on to test.. was fighting stuff and noticed a WS map flag.. went to it to use it.. then it shut down on me.. and i cannot log back in.. am i missing a .elm file or something.. i d/l the 3 i saw in another post.

They should work fine as long as you have all 3 maps.  Maybe it's corrupt or something... The first map is kwayver1.elm, second is dustin1.elm and third is kwayver3.elm

For what it's worth, their MD5SUMs are:
Code:
  46dcc9e0e481161012010c34c267af27  /opt/el/maps/kwayver1.elm
  371d274864328befe3d96432b92b6648  /opt/el/maps/kwayver3.elm
  1fc602d3a3d5c47a1a6f21e56222b514  /opt/el/maps/dustin1.elm


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Talixim on 2008-10-29 11:49 (Wed)
omg korrode I wanna test  :o

but when i make a shortcut for qel and modify the program line it says something like it's not valid...help?


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Korrode on 2008-10-29 12:35 (Wed)
Have u read Fallen's post here?
http://qelserv.quadronyx.org/forums/index.php?topic=7.msg19#msg19

once you've done that u need to run EL with the 'qelserv' parameter

like atm to goto test server u run:

el.exe test

you would run:
el.exe qelserv

You can prolly copy and paste this to your Run box, if u have the modified servers.lst file in your EL folder:

"C:\Program Files\Eternal Lands\el.exe" qelserv


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: krayon on 2008-10-29 12:38 (Wed)
Ahh... Korrode beat me too it :(  Well, I'm posting anyway as I went to all the trouble of typing it.

but when i make a shortcut for qel and modify the program line it says something like it's not valid...help?

Have you modified your server.lst file?  Or replaced it with the downloadable one?  If you have, you need to ensure that the link points to whatever it is for EL but with the server's name added to the end.  So if EL is:
Code:
  C:\Program Files\EL\el.exe
Then for QELServ it's:
Code:
  C:\Program Files\EL\el.exe qelserv

Note that the qelserv part refers directly to the name in the server.lst file so if you changed that name, then the link must be changed too.


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Jizzy on 2008-10-29 14:45 (Wed)
OK. i tested for a few hours today.. found a few bugs that i let krayon know of..

I like the basic concept of it all.. and at 1st i was really taken in by the leveling with the swords.. training a/d.. but when i get to a/d 18/9.. its kinda obvious that the training with swords completly outpowers your defence and makes it nearly impossible to lvl.. i even pvp'd with bigkav for a while and we could barely lvl def.. (and yes i trained with and without swords for long periods of time)

it would be good if it was fixed to lvl them a little more evenly..

well.. ive already talked to Krayon about the bigest bugs' and things i found... so no need to re post them here.. that was my only BIG thought on it all. other than that. really enjoyable and i played it for hours.

great job :)


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Korrode on 2008-10-29 15:12 (Wed)
http://qelserv.quadronyx.org/forums/index.php?topic=11.0

in regards to def exps, check that out...

also, rationality exp bonus for def is quite good ;)

EDIT:
If after a while of playing myself and key testers agree def exp is coming in too slow, we'll see about making it so it can be earned faster.


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Jizzy on 2008-10-29 15:40 (Wed)
http://qelserv.quadronyx.org/forums/index.php?topic=11.0

in regards to def exps, check that out...

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Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Korrode on 2008-10-29 16:07 (Wed)
you cant get into the "General Topics" section? o,O'


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Korrode on 2008-10-29 16:12 (Wed)
ok seems someone didnt add their new "betawulfs" forum group to the ppls who could access some sections, lol.

Fixed ;)


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: krayon on 2008-10-29 17:06 (Wed)
ok seems someone didnt add their new "betawulfs" forum group to the ppls who could access some sections, lol.

Fixed ;)

Oh dear  :-[

That's SLIGHTLY strange.  I figured groups would inherit "Guest" privs ... oh well, my bad.  Sorry to all the Betawulfs who could not access General Topics.

Thanks again to all that have been testing too!  It's great to have a community starting to develop.


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: krayon on 2008-10-29 23:47 (Wed)
it would be good if it was fixed to lvl them a little more evenly..
Well, as you've no doubt read, def in our server is not the companion of att.  It's a cross the board skill.  But anyway, we can all see how it goes - modifications can be made if required.

well.. ive already talked to Krayon about the bigest bugs' and things i found... so no need to re post them here.. that was my only BIG thought on it all.
Those issues should be fixed now.  It was technically only 1 issue that then caused the other issue but I've fixed both regardless so if the first did occur again, the second would not.  Let me know if anything further develops.  (For those who didn't know, there was a bug allowing for cloning of items).

great job :)
Thanks!  And thank you for helping out :)


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: anima on 2008-10-30 04:25 (Thu)
great work so far guys :)

i found a bug that you probably already know of but what the heck.

when i lagged out whilst fighting the creature i was fighting got stuck fighting and could no longer move or be attacked.

also is the double attack rate of the creatures whilst the player tries to flee a feature?
i seem to sometimes get server resyncs whilst trying to flee too.


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Dilly on 2008-10-30 04:44 (Thu)
I´m pleasantly surprised by what you got so far. Sure it's still a bit slow, and there's things to be done, and eeeks I got pwnt by an imp -.- but the starter island is a great place. I encountered anima's rat, it seems stuck in combat. Harvested some fruits and love that you're able to eat and just keep on harvesting. I hope it stays :P

Apart from that, I haven´t encountered any unexpected bugs so far, but will do some more testing later tonight or tomorrow :)


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Talixim on 2008-10-30 06:20 (Thu)
I seem to be an Admin/Bot :D

When I created a character I get "TalixiM" in purple and "Admin" behind my name in yellow.

I don't get any exp when fighting and when I attack they just disappear. Also I cannot harvest anything.

If needed I will be a mod :D


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Korrode on 2008-10-30 08:49 (Thu)
waaa, pr0 bug lol

server's being restarted now, next time you log in you wont be in admin mode, and will actually be able to fight stuff ;)

EDIT:
and thanks Anima and Dilly :)
I believe Krayon is aware of that 'fighting stance bug', but if not, he'll see it here :)


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Talixim on 2008-10-30 12:51 (Thu)
aww dang no more teleporting


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: krayon on 2008-10-30 15:34 (Thu)
aww dang no more teleporting

Ah yes, you have had the exhilarating experience of moving around a map at high speed via teleportation, interacting with objects on the other side of the map, kicking creatures and other players merely by clicking on them etc

It's amazing what not toggling a little bit can do :P


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Jizzy on 2008-10-30 23:48 (Thu)
ok. i had a bug. that is fixed now i think. when some one is in admin mode. if i was fighting a monster and say krayon was next to me and kicked the monster i was fighting.. i would have 0 attack and OA.. then next time i fought a monster my attack and OA jumped to 179.... this is fixed... but my point.. when i had all that oa. i spent all the pickpoints.. i had 50 reasoning 40 sumthing vitality/will/instinct

with all that i was getting ~22 def exp from goblins.. though i was overpowering them with my monster attack.. the little def exp i 'did' get . was nice....

but my point.. it makes it alot easier to train def.. just pump up your reasoning and dont use a sword.... i understand that its seperate from attack.. so thats cool....

ohh and about the bug.. if you repeated the bug it put the players attack and OA to normal.


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Korrode on 2008-10-30 23:53 (Thu)
with 50 reasoning you were only getting ~22 def exp per dodge from goblins? ...thats not right, lol, thx for report.


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: anima on 2008-10-31 00:07 (Fri)
as far as the bug jizzy found.

repeating it did not fix it as such, it just reset my att and oa to lvl 4, so i now have a negative amount of pps and a very unbalanced a/d.


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Dilly on 2008-10-31 04:10 (Fri)
(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii23/dilloesional/qel2bonesslots.jpg)

got bones in two slots.

Makes sense that I couldn't merge them unless I dropped all in a bag on the ground and picked them up again. Will try and see if I can reproduce.


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Jizzy on 2008-10-31 08:08 (Fri)
with 50 reasoning you were only getting ~22 def exp per dodge from goblins? ...thats not right, lol, thx for report.

sry. i said that wrong.. it was 22 from imps.. 34 from gobs


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Talixim on 2008-10-31 13:14 (Fri)
tech demo is looking sexy, I will definitely continue to play :)

I also like the nice amount of gc dropped by brownies, will be nice and simple for newbies to start off in the game. Just a small suggestion: instead of just dropping gold, I think less rare items such as some potions, essence, minor swords, and armour be dropped more frequently just to keep things more interesting. gc gets boring after a while.

keep up the good work.


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: krayon on 2008-10-31 13:58 (Fri)
(http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii23/dilloesional/qel2bonesslots.jpg)

got bones in two slots.

Makes sense that I couldn't merge them unless I dropped all in a bag on the ground and picked them up again. Will try and see if I can reproduce.

Yes sorry, this is a known issue.  This is caused by the fact that the item is equippable and stackable.  To my knowledge, EL had a slight issue with this in the past too.  Only 2 items in all of EL (I think) are like this, namely bones and sticks.

I will be sorting this out but as there is a work around, and it isn't a MAJOR bug, and the fix isn't really, really simple... it hasn't been done yet.


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Jizzy on 2008-11-01 03:28 (Sat)
ok. i had a bug. that is fixed now i think. when some one is in admin mode. if i was fighting a monster and say krayon was next to me and kicked the monster i was fighting.. i would have 0 attack and OA.. then next time i fought a monster my attack and OA jumped to 179....

ohh and about the bug.. if you repeated the bug it put the players attack and OA to normal.

I duplicated this bug the same day it happened.. not only did i get umm.. forgot his name.. to do it to me.. but i did this to anima and that other guy too.. so this is 3 confirmed tries.


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Zaer on 2008-11-03 20:53 (Mon)
all seems ok to me, gets slow at about 15/8 a/d though.

Just stuff already reported that I noticed. Lots of mobs around stuck in fight mode. When you flee mobs attack 2x as fast, pro for def training I guess :>

Also when you spawn when you die, if there is a rabbit/rat right in front of you you can't move out, and you can't kill them as they're underwater. afaik in EL you can click on the health bar to attack stuff. Just abit annoying when you have to wait there to move =p

Other than that I really like it, especially the exp system, gj :)


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Kidberg on 2008-11-04 08:17 (Tue)
When I resync I always come back with a "You failed to flee" message


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: SenZon on 2008-11-04 09:54 (Tue)
have been playing for few days now and so far so good  :o

and no bugs other then the known ones


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Jizzy on 2008-11-04 12:46 (Tue)
all seems ok to me, gets slow at about 15/8 a/d though.

Just stuff already reported that I noticed. Lots of mobs around stuck in fight mode. When you flee mobs attack 2x as fast, pro for def training I guess :>

Also when you spawn when you die, if there is a rabbit/rat right in front of you you can't move out, and you can't kill them as they're underwater. afaik in EL you can click on the health bar to attack stuff. Just abit annoying when you have to wait there to move =p

Other than that I really like it, especially the exp system, gj :)

type #beam me  next time.. it will beam you past it :)


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: krayon on 2008-11-04 16:20 (Tue)
Also when you spawn when you die, if there is a rabbit/rat right in front of you you can't move out, and you can't kill them as they're underwater. afaik in EL you can click on the health bar to attack stuff. Just abit annoying when you have to wait there to move =p
You used to be able to attack via clicking the name but Entropy got rid of that.  I believe his solution was that you can still attack by clicking the body while they are under water (it changes to attack cursor when over it) but Korrode tells me it doesn't work with mud which sucks.  At any rate, the creature AI will be improved soon which should circumvent this.


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: Zorro on 2008-11-07 08:57 (Fri)
K here are some things i experienced

1) while pvp you can still sit for 1-2 secs

2)when attacking some monster sometimes they run away but im stuck in att mode , but when i click again then on the monster it will att then ( small error but maybe good when solved)

3) the teleporting like you know , mrgrey also had it he was buying pots and landed in the cave of imps,goblins

If i find more i will let you know ;)

Greetz Z


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: FrySlan on 2008-11-07 22:50 (Fri)
I fought a goblin, tried to flee, clicked everywhere..so also on the cave entrance
and got out, BUT I was still 'fighting' in the next map.

And if you flee you get twice as fast defense exp.


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: LightLan on 2008-11-08 20:29 (Sat)
after my first day of testing I can say you did well :)

nice training system, allows you to serp monsters for massive attack, or punch them for def and anything inbetween :)

just the pathfinder sometimes annoys me :P

thinks I can walk through npcs animals and players, but I can't :P


Title: Re: Tech demo
Post by: grollach on 2008-11-09 02:23 (Sun)
your doing good with the test server but i wish the dragon blade had the stats it does on el  :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'( o ya it would be good if we could buy more then 5 pot at a time